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  • Daniel Egger - Thursday, November 2, 2017 - link

    IBM, Motorola and now Fujitsu. Lenovo is killing great companies/branches and their products left and right...
  • Samus - Thursday, November 2, 2017 - link

    I agree. It'd be one thing if acquiring these companies made Lenovo shit better, but it seems they just make these other companies products worse.
  • Hurr Durr - Friday, November 3, 2017 - link

    IBM and Motorola were very successfully killing themselves. Hell, IBM still is!
  • edzieba - Friday, November 3, 2017 - link

    Motorola had a very brief period of non-decline under Google, but IBM-as-Lenovo has been going very well for them. The consumer lines are the same almost-universal garbage as before the acquisition (and as every other computer manufacturer), but the business lines remain excellent. I'd take a Thinkpad over a Latitude or Elitebook any day of the week.
  • amosbatto - Sunday, November 5, 2017 - link

    IBM PCs and Motorola under Google lost millions of dollars every quarter. I don't like some of the changes made by Lenovo, such as trying to make Thinkpads in 2013 (Tx30 series) look like Macbooks and taking away the removeable battery in smartphones and abandoning the X series smartphones, but Lenovo did make IBM's PC business profitable. It is still loosing money in its phone business, but less than Google lost, and LG, HTC, Sony and Microsoft are arguably doing worse than Lenovo in phones.
  • Penti - Thursday, November 2, 2017 - link

    Fujitsu PC's do command a market in Europe thanks to it's roots in Siemens PC-business, but I would say it's almost entirely in the enterprise space nowadays. Fujitsu Siemens had manufacturing in Germany and made some of their own notebooks (was responsible for designing some of Fujitsu's model-series) rather than just selling whatever Fujitsu came up with in Japan but I wouldn't count on them making a return in the retail/consumer space but rather continue to focus on businesses and public contracts here. Though stuff like their Lifebook-series (the one's with a docking-port at least) do compete against Lenovo's ThinkPads so I don't really know what the benefit would be for Lenovo to own and control the venture.

    They do still have manufacturing in Germany btw, but I don't really see how they could separate that from their server business. As they still engineer some of the PC systems in Germany/Europe I would think that it's a part of the joint venture. Don't know if the manufacturing plant will change hands, as that is part of the server business too and would make sense the keep within Fujitsu.
  • amosbatto - Sunday, November 5, 2017 - link

    I remember reading a comment from Micheal Dell a couple years ago that there would eventually only be 3 PC companies. With Sony, Samsung, NEC and now Fujitsu all selling out or scaling back, there are fewer competitors than before. In 2016, the six leading companies (Lenovo, HP, Dell, Asus, Apple & Acer) controlled 76.1% of the global market. Every year, the total number of PCs being sold is reduced and the market share of the "others" is reduced.

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