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  • azfacea - Friday, March 13, 2020 - link

    shut up and take my money
  • Mr Perfect - Friday, March 13, 2020 - link

    This pricing would be exciting if they weren't just clearing inventory ahead of the 4000 series launch.
  • FreckledTrout - Friday, March 13, 2020 - link

    What? If that is what they are doing then its very exciting because that means Zen3 is very early.
  • quiksilvr - Friday, March 13, 2020 - link

    Their naming is getting really confusing. I get it is 4th gen hence the 4000 but why not just make up some BS and call Zen3 Zen4 so the numbers line up?
  • FreckledTrout - Friday, March 13, 2020 - link

    Because the Zen mnemonic is for there own internal naming. Like IceLake, WiskyLake etc from Intel. If you want to follow CPU's then keep up :) If not the retail names area easy track.
  • sing_electric - Friday, March 13, 2020 - link

    What's REALLY confusing is that the generations for mobile parts don't line up with desktop parts: A 3000 series desktop CPU is Zen2, but a 3000 series laptop CPU is Zen+.

    Intel's basically doing the reverse: On say, the 10xxx series, desktop are all still 14nm, but SOME mobile parts are 10nm.... and some aren't. No way to tell unless you're pretty familiar or Google it.
  • MenhirMike - Friday, March 13, 2020 - link

    And a 3000 Desktop APU (e.g., Ryzen 5 3400G) is also Zen+.
  • Byte - Friday, March 13, 2020 - link

    Don't even get me started on Pentium models, Celeron, and Xeon naming numbering systems.
  • smilingcrow - Friday, March 13, 2020 - link

    Which will likely be put back due to a certain virus.
  • extide - Friday, March 13, 2020 - link

    Yeah, no. Zen3/Ryzen 4000 is at least 6 months out.
  • anactoraaron - Friday, March 13, 2020 - link

    Prices are even cheaper at Microcenter. Just got a 3600 for 159.
  • ballsystemlord - Friday, March 13, 2020 - link

    Is AMD also going to discount the X570 chipset so that the MBs don't cost a fortune?
  • sing_electric - Friday, March 13, 2020 - link

    Funny you mention that: It LOOKS like the B550m motherboards are finally coming. (And you can obviously use a 400-series mobo as long as it's been updated.)
  • ballsystemlord - Friday, March 13, 2020 - link

    And miss out on PCIe 4.0? Never! ;)
  • MenhirMike - Friday, March 13, 2020 - link

    The B550 at least offers the PCIe 4.0 from the CPU, along with PCIe 3.0 from the Chipset. So you get that sweet 4.0 for GPU and SSD needs and 3.0 for 10G Ethernet or Video Capture or whatever.
  • ajp_anton - Saturday, March 14, 2020 - link

    The GPU gets no benefit whatsoever from PCIe 4.0. The only reason for me to get those speeds is for the CPU<->chipset link. I guess some people want it for SSDs as well.
  • ballsystemlord - Monday, March 16, 2020 - link

    Yet.

    That's the key word here. I want a little future proofing please.
  • rrinker - Friday, March 13, 2020 - link

    Of COURSE. Not even 24 hours since I ordered....
  • MenhirMike - Friday, March 13, 2020 - link

    So, you're still in the return window :)
  • rrinker - Monday, March 16, 2020 - link

    I already put the system together. And the price is still the same, so the cut hasn;t trickled down yet.

    Side note, I am pretty impressed with this. I felt burned by AMD/ATI back in the Athlon XP days with a rather poor performing machine for the price, but this is just going to be a server replacement for my aging WHS, as soon as I can figure out a backup solution that's even close to what WHS offered 10 years ago. That being: dedupe across multiple systems being backed up (at the target), imcrementals that for restore automatically can be mounted as a drive showing the system at a particular point in time, etc. I found an open source Linux based backup that seems to offer all that, but then I'd have to run it in a VM which greatly complicates the 'backup the backup' to my cloud backup.
    Anyway, despite a fairly spendy MB (which I don't consider ridiculous these days, at under $155 for one that has dual M.2 that don't disable the SATA ports, even though it has a bunch of RGB BS I have no need for), the whole thing has not cost a fortune despite having RAID 1 M.2 SSDs for the OS drive and a pair of 2TB SATA SSDs to act as fast cache drives. Still need to get the spinning rust for main storage. Despite using the cheapest PCIe X1 video card I could find (since it will run headless), it's much faster than my existing desktop or the old server - but the old server is about 9 years old and has a 2nd gen Core 2 I5, and my 8 year od desktop is running a Xeon 1230v2, though I do have all SSD (SATA) in it. Yeah, I keep my systems for a long time, I'm not a heavy gamer. But I think I will build another identical to the server, just put in a single M.2 1TB SSD, and use a real video card to replace this desktop. Oh - the new server has 32GB RAM, too, the old one is capped by the MB at 8GB, and my desktop has 16GB. I'm pretty impressed with these newer Ryzen CPUs.
  • yannigr2 - Friday, March 13, 2020 - link

    And why choose an AMD CPU and not a ****new**** Intel CPU, like the Core i9 10900T for example that is advertised as a 35W TDP CPU and consumer over 120W in reality?
  • jordanclock - Friday, March 13, 2020 - link

    As much as I like to point out Intel's failings, TDP is not power consumption.
  • MenhirMike - Friday, March 13, 2020 - link

    Let me be that guy: "Drop's" - really? (Headline at the moment, should be drops without the apostrophe)
  • sheh - Friday, March 13, 2020 - link

    Nonsense!

    http://drops-official.com/
  • 3ogdy - Saturday, March 14, 2020 - link

    AMD *DROPS.
  • AshlayW - Saturday, March 14, 2020 - link

    There is no viable reason to even consider an Intel CPU in 2020 for a desktop PC. This is just the further icing on the cake. AMD has done more for consumer/client computing in 3 years than Intel has done in 10+.
  • harobikes333 - Saturday, March 14, 2020 - link

    ^ Agreed 100% - competition is a GOOD THING. If chips are similar I'll always purchase an AMD chip simply because they're the underdog so to speak. A quick search of Intel CPU pricing five years ago until recently shows that competition ensures fair pricing.
  • watzupken - Sunday, March 15, 2020 - link

    Seems like AMD is starting their clearance, and at the same time, making the Ryzen chips more attractive against the imminent release of the Intel 10xxx series.
  • Humfuri - Sunday, March 15, 2020 - link

    I just read that 7nm amd cpu isn't really 7nm. I searched for answers but haven't really cleared it yet
  • meacupla - Sunday, March 15, 2020 - link

    It's just marketing BS about TSMC's 7nm Transistor Density

    AMD (TSMC) 7nm has roughly the same transistor density as Intel 10nm.
    However, TSMC 7nm still has reduced power consumption, so it's still better than Intel 10nm.
  • meacupla - Sunday, March 15, 2020 - link

    I like that they are lowering prices for the upcoming 4xxx series launch

    But where is the B550 chipset?

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