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  • sprockkets - Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - link

    Hopefully a decent phone, one that doesn't look cookie cutter.
  • sleepeeg3 - Thursday, October 20, 2011 - link

    ^Basically. Different processor, same body. Will be interesting to see a head-to-head comparison. The WP interface does not look attractive to me and Windows Mobile 6.5 was a mega power hog.
  • doubledeej - Thursday, October 20, 2011 - link

    And Windows Mobile's power usage is relevant because...
  • Spivonious - Thursday, October 20, 2011 - link

    You have to see WP7 in person to appreciate the UI. The tiles are alive instead of just being static icons. And why compare it to WinMo 6.5? WP7 was essentially written from scratch and Mango improves on the efficiency.
  • sleepyweasel - Thursday, October 20, 2011 - link

    I have the Samsung Focus, and the body is different, unless you meant they are both black.
    Im not sure if you realized, but this is Windows Phone 7. Not the same OS as Windows Mobile 6.5
  • dcollins - Thursday, October 20, 2011 - link

    The Focus S seems like a pretty cool phone and I am dying to try Mango. I am really tempted to make the jump now even though I know I should wait for Krait.
  • Thermalzeal - Thursday, October 20, 2011 - link

    I play games, run the occasional powerpoint and watch netflix on my Focus. I have yet to feel it "strain" in any of these tasks. While I'm sure an increase in power always helps improve experiences, I would say that it is a small change that it would take a very discerning person to identify.

    On my previous iPhone 4, I would visibly see slowdowns and crashes, that would lead me to believe that the 4S would be an improvement. here, only the 8mp camera and front facing camera would be the big improvements.

    The one big difference that I have yet to find out about on the Focus S and Flash is the inclusion of a memory card slot.

    On the Focus, I've installed a 32GB card to give me 40GB total for all my Zune pass content. I wonder what sizes, or whether a memory card slow will be provided in these new models.
  • inighthawki - Thursday, October 20, 2011 - link

    It has been shown in the past that adding a memory card like that actually significantly slows down the phone, making apps takes literally an order of magnitude longer to load since the memory card you install is going to be much slower than the built in flash memory. Regardless of whether or not these phones have support for a memory card, I would highly recommend against adding in a memory card unless you absolutely need the space.
  • trivor - Thursday, October 20, 2011 - link

    Actually ,some of the early designs (Verizon trophy) went with a reference design that already includes a Micro SD card so it can't get slower. If WP7 wants to compete it needs some phones with higher storage (8/16 GB) is not going to hack it given that Data is being capped by the carriers - we can debate whether it needs dual core or not.
  • tayb - Thursday, October 20, 2011 - link

    Microsoft has done a wonderful job with WP7. It's buttery smooth even on inferior hardware. The newer hardware will lead to better battery life, however.

    In my opinion the three things holding WP7 back are...

    1. Lack of hardware options or inferior hardware options.
    2. Lack of advertising.
    3. Too much association with "Windows Mobile" which has an extremely strong negative response in most people.

    Microsoft is not doing NEARLY enough to distance itself from Windows Mobile and advertise the new platform. The hardware aspect looks to be improving with a bevy of handsets being released within the new few weeks.
  • french toast - Saturday, October 22, 2011 - link

    Yea i totally agree with what you have said, i actually wrote a long post on wmpoweruser.com describing some of those points.

    The hardware is much too same(y) at least htc tried something a bit different last year, but this year its all the same stuff.
    Also wp7handstes are getting low rent parts... Ram,storage, camara, untill the focus s screen technology, (range topping super amoled plus as apposed to normal amoled- focus)

    The chassis stipulates MINIMUM hardware requirements, so at LEAST 512 ram, there is nothing stopping samsung putting the same amount of ram/storage as the galaxy s2 for example.
    Im not sure about the processor, in theory the same should apply, although im not sure.
    Seems as wp7 are getting the bottom of the barrel parts from where i am.

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